Upgraded Bean Update

We’ve got a quick update on the next stage of the roll out plan for the Upgraded bean and what that means for the timeline on deprecating the classic bean avatar.

The vast majority of Rec Room players now use the Upgraded Bean or Full Body Avatar and benefit from all of the new avatar customization - body paint, face and body sliders and new sprites, as well as being able to wear all of the amazing UGC items created by the community.

Next week, all players who have their avatar set to the classic bean will be automatically switched to the upgraded bean when they login. The Upgraded Bean has had a lot of improvements this year so we’ll be paying close attention to constructive feedback on if and how the switch impacts the play experience. The best place to ping us is here.

You’ll be able to switch back to the classic bean in the Game Settings menu under the Experience tab. Look for Bean Avatar Settings.

Our next step will be to review the feedback and see if there’s any more changes we need to make to the new bean. If so, we’ll let you know what those are and when they’ll happen. After that, we’ll be announcing a date for retiring the classic bean.

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“retiring the legacy bean”

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God damn rec room. Yall suck for this one (as in trying to retire classic bean).

Edit: I would be fine with this if the new bean wasn’t extremely different from the old bean, it still feels nothing like the original imo. I would recommend changes but what do they care.

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pls just remove the jumping & sliding animations for vr :sob:

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thats ones things they need to do out of the hundreds of bugs with it plaguing pvp

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You really want to make people leave the game? sure, we will leave the game and cancel rr+. Ty for making features that are for 6 yesr old that will play the game for 10 minutes and leave the game

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you have alerted the horde

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Thats a good thing ! I love the new avatar feature for the bean avatar ! I hope the bean will have no bug when you remove the old one :slight_smile:

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It’s funny, I started playing Rec Room in 2020, and throughout that time I heard so many players crying and moaning about how the bean avatars look silly.

Now that full body avatars are the standard, and the bean has been updated alongside it, a very vocal minority of players are so vehemently against it.

I, among many others I’ve been playing with for years, switched to FBA the instant I was able, and haven’t switched back since.

I swear, the vast majority of players complaining about FBA are either players from before my time on the game who are nostalgic for a version of the game that hasn’t existed in over half a decade, or simply come onto Reddit, Discord, and here in the Forum with no other objective than to complain.

I get giving constructive criticism, I do it here all the time, but the removal of a feature that was so widely requested and used by the majority of active players is such an odd hill to die on.

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Not my classic bean :pensive_face: :folded_hands:

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I feel like that you need more time on the New Bean avatar type. mostly fixing body prepositions. the ONLY way i found to make the bean bodies to work is 1 cover the face with a ugc item or 2 stretch the face prepositions to what ever. i think why the old bean worked is that you don’t really have to screw with the face so much and looking at a rec room character shouted out “Hey that’s from Rec Room!” Now it feels like “What are you showing me?”

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Finally some one with a brain

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I think most people are complaining because of how New bean uses that same prepositions as FBA that intern makes the camera further into the bean body head. that makes things like food objects or in general consumables harder to use. Now I could be wrong and they may have fixed the camera problem for VR but the bigger problem is still that New beans look to weird and need more time. And Its bad faith to imply that people “crying and moaning about how the bean avatars look silly.” is making a point that no one is giving ways to fix the problem. or even “either players from before my time on the game who are nostalgic for a version of the game that hasn’t existed in over half a decade, or simply come onto Reddit, Discord, and here in the Forum with no other objective than to complain.” makes it seem that people “complaining” about these problems are just “nostalgic” for a game that they played a long time ago, just dismisses people that have valid criticism. Yes i know that people do just hate on Rec Room just to hate. That happens in every community. Fba was a competitive disadvantage for a year or more. adding on top in my personal opinion the fact fba avatars did and still look bad from a character design aspect. Fba still clashes with the opening orientation with bean bodies all over the place and just the bean avatar it self. putting them side by side shows that there is a art clash.

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probably in orientation because they use the old bean in most places. they may try to convert all old bean avatars Holitars (sorry if i spelt it wrong) with the new beans idk tho

Valid criticism is great, just look at my post and comment history here on the forum, I have my own things to say, but there’s a difference between airing valid criticism:

And general screaming into the void:

“This game sucks now they need to get rid of {x} new feature”

If every one of these people got their way, we’d have no FBA, no UGC, no RRS, no R2, and no non-VR players. If it stayed that way, it would have stagnated and fell off long ago. This is what I mean by the nostalgia.

If that worked, they would have stuck with it, but the main demographic of the game has changed drastically since it’s inception.

The game has to innovate constantly, and instead of providing criticism on how to improve the existing features, they just complain that they prefer the old, outdated feature that wasn’t built for the current system.

We have enough of this on every other platform, Reddit, Discord, YouTube, TikTok are all full of people complaining about any and every choice the game makes, I really hope that doesn’t become the case here on the forum, I’d prefer valid criticism not getting drowned out here like it does everywhere else because of people nitpicking every single thing RR does.

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What “better stuff” are you referring to?

This is a GREAT change, i just wish you’d refuse the classic bean option and let it deprecate in peace

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From what I understand people on criticized RRS because of slop maps using it to make eye catching thumbnails for kids. Rec room is just appealing to just kids. People criticized Fba because it was a half a**ed effort to make the existing avatar items work on Fba and not to mention that it was not asked for at the time. at the time it was added people wanted bug fixes. it mostly showed the Rec Room the corporation (it is a legally a corporation one google search proves it) that they didn’t care. Ugc is to much of a broad term so i assume you mean rooms. if so from what i can tell no one was mad about the feature. and finally R2 is mostly criticized for being extremely bug but most of that is being fixed. Also Yes there is a difference between

And

But you make every one that has ever said anything bad to be “nostalgic” to mean that they are complaining. I get that the need to evolve BUT they are mostly de evolving.
by adding ai that will cost them tons and continuously removing features like the weekly’s then making all those skins payable is just anti player. they keep showing that they don’t like us at all. and like money

Not everyone who uses RRS imports a bunch of free assets from Sketchfab, the build team I’m in, and myself create our own models, particles, UI, and Cv2. Slop maps were in the game long before RRS, but that’s an entirely different issue.

This is verifiably untrue, not only were full body avatars one of the most requested features, but people were hyped for them when they were announced. I wanted them, and so did a LOT of people I know who play this game regularly.

I have no idea what this particular point has to do with anything

Mainly speaking about UGC avatar items in this case

I criticize Rec Room a bunch, just check my comment history on here. I’m speaking on the topic of FBA/Upgraded Bean though, which I think was a good decision of Rec Room’s part, and it’s overwhelmingly popular amongst the playerbase.

I dislike Maker AI as well, but there’s a thread on that, this thread is about upgraded bean and FBA, not Maker AI.

This thread also isn’t about weekly challenges, but even if it were, they were removed for perfectly valid reasons.

The start were you quote

and then go on and say “Not everyone who uses RRS imports a bunch of free assets from Sketchfab, the build team I’m in, and myself create our own models, particles, UI, and Cv2. Slop maps were in the game long before RRS, but that’s an entirely different issue.” completely misunderstands what i am saying. good for you guys making those assets your self’s but what I am trying to say is people criticized RRS because of people importing Sketchfab models or using the same free assets on the unity store. And the continued lake of quality control. the second thing is that yes there may have been people really wanting fba. But its still dosent take away from my point that mostly everyone wanted bug fixes. and you don’t show proof of alot of people wanting fba.

i mentioned it because of me calling rec room a corporation. and
if your talking about ugc avatar items. it was because of what happened with the shirts. they were and still are inappropriate for a game that is COPPA approved.
you saying

and

Is dumb because you started to talk about that

So i felt it necessary to mention them because you mentioned them.